Curse

Aera Lure · Nov 14, 2005, 03:20 PM // 15:20

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Originally Posted by Trinity Entragian

Besides, some of the female faces (particularly in certain classes) are just hidiously bad. They look like men in drag.

Lol, I was at one point in time going to go back into character creation and screenshot all female face options for all professions, make a little grid, post them, and point out the same thing. I cannot do this now, since I have four characters and am not about to go deleting and remaking any of them anymore.

Hair options aside, when you go and look at faces available (I have only made female characters, so I really cant comment on the male options), for any given profession there are about two good looking choices and five or more absolutely frightening choices. Charisma -5 or thereabouts. Was Anet trying to be funny? Was it that hard to make a few good looking and different faces? I may have to go back and screenshot those, unless someone can do it? Some were just so bad. Maybe just delete my ele now (joke joke). Chapter 2 I hope we have at least a few decent face options.

Hair I think should minimally have RGB sliders. A few times I wanted a certain hair color but then had only one or two options in style - or the other way around. Eye color and build might be nice. Eye color maybe isnt needed but its also really easy to implement. Build could just be a slider similar to the height slider.

To the OP, yeah, I am mostly happy with my character style choices. Hair is one thing over time I do wish to be able to change for my necro and my ele. No matter how careful I was, I find now I'd like to be able to tinker some more. So its not just you.

PS: Female warrior tassels FTW though, to whoever said they didnt like them. I love them. Per my avatar.

Ailyrr Merlena · Nov 14, 2005, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure

PS: Female warrior tassels FTW though, to whoever said they didnt like them. I love them. Per my avatar.

YES!!!!!
This is one of the reasons I WANT to be able to change my hair. My warrior has her hair all piled up, with a funky sailormoon-esque band.
I WANT TASSELS!!!!

And when I created my ele back in April/May, I knew I was making her a necro secondary, so I thought, Oh cool, I'll make her vampire-pale, with batwings in her hair.
Okay....I'm bored with the hair. And since I bought the hydromancer armor, I'm blinding anything within eyesight. Oh hey, that could be a whole new skill- Blinding Skin Reflection- on the other hand, it would probably be an AoE, so scratch that.

aron searle · Nov 14, 2005, 04:08 PM // 16:08

Actually on a serios note..

This would actually be a good thing to entice female players, being able to play about with your charachters looks. Although its something for the next expanision i feel.

Look at the sim's, its one of the reasons its so popular with girls.

dfscott · Nov 14, 2005, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by Findariel

Well rpg wise, a plastic surgeon would be a it overdone for a fantasy world, but not being able just to change you wear your hair .. or dye it every once in a while ..

At least a barbershop would be nice, perhaps in Denvravi (since there's nothing else to do, jungle already is the least poplular area). A nice place where the tired defenders of freedom can take a little luxurious break

I agree. Over time I learn to recognize certain characters I see a lot. If all aspects are changeable, it would tend to break the RP'ing aspect for me (some people might not care about that, but I do). However, hair color and/or style are something that can be changed without there being an in-game disconnect.

I would be a nice gold sink and also could provide us with some amusing diversions (e.g., today is [so and so's] birthday -- everyone change their hair style and color to match them

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Lun-Sei · Nov 14, 2005, 05:01 PM // 17:01

I think the only thing I don't like is that all hair are combed up. I want my female elementalist to have long uncombed hair. But I can't.
And when I tried long uncombed hair on a male elementalist, they looked as though they were either made of stone or very heavy... they didn't move, as though plastic.

dfscott · Nov 14, 2005, 05:51 PM // 17:51

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Originally Posted by Lun-Sei

I think the only thing I don't like is that all hair are combed up. I want my female elementalist to have long uncombed hair. But I can't.
And when I tried long uncombed hair on a male elementalist, they looked as though they were either made of stone or very heavy... they didn't move, as though plastic.

iirc, hair is one of the most difficult things to convincingly animate. You'll notice that even the female ranger hair will move as a single piece, much like the capes. Remember the FF movie? Only Aki had hair that moved -- everyone else was bald or had close-cropped hair (they must have spent all their hair time on her).

I think it would be really cool if during a long battle, hair would come loose and have to be brushed back. (Ok, I'm dreaming, but it would be cool

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Xa Panda · Nov 14, 2005, 05:55 PM // 17:55

yes a few more options would be nice.. I agree

imanixon2 · Nov 14, 2005, 06:11 PM // 18:11

I agree. There should definitely be more choices when making characters. But I wouldn't go to the degree of choosing every little detail, though it would be hard to find another char within 5 minutes that looked just like you. I'm not a WoW fan to the least, but I did like that you got to choose face patterns, several other skin colors, etc. When the next chapter comes out, there should be more than just different classes(hint hint Gaile), but also more choices if one decides to make a character type that already exists.

Mordakai · Nov 14, 2005, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Any reason not to include other races?
Rogue Charr? A Tengku (sp?) Skale? (LOL)

Or would that be going too far?

Swampgirl Inez · Nov 14, 2005, 06:25 PM // 18:25

I second Trinity. Make appearance non-class specific. I just had to delete a really great-looking character because her build wasn't working. I know, shallow, but I was having serious second thoughts because I really liked the way she looked.

Anyway, I know the more you add options, the more there is to code, but we already have a wide assortment of faces, hair, skin, etc. It is annoying that only certain ones can be used at a time. I'd really like that face, hair and skin combo back, but it isn't possible with the new build/primary profession combo. I'd also like to see something similar in armor choices, but that's another thread.

On a side note, I used to play SWG where just about everything appearance-wise was on a slider. You could even choose age and weight. 99% of the population still looked like Barbie and Ken. /shrug

Rancour · Nov 14, 2005, 06:27 PM // 18:27

In my opinion the faces and hair styles of all the professions should be available to any profession.

F.eks. what if you want to make a female elementalist that looks more or less sane? Most of the hair styles are wacky, but the faces are good. Same thing with monk females, they have stupid hair too. So why not make it so that an elementalist could use ranger hair? Not from a different sex, that'd be strange. You know what I mean.

Ahh, races. I would greatly appreciate them. I know Guildwars isn't intended to be a normal RPG, but I really think it lacks without races. In my opinion, dual-wielding is another place where Guildwars needs to steal from other games, but that's another story. I'm not sure WHAT races there should be or how to fit them into the current storyline, but in the expansion perhaps?

That'd be great, in my opinion.

jesh · Nov 14, 2005, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Yeah, dual weilding would really bring in all the twelve year olds. Add an assassin class too, and you'd never be able to make a group without people that haven't gone through puberty.

Anyway, the RPG arguement VS this is stupid. GW isn't an rpg, and you can easily tell the difference between classes with ARMOR, not hair/face. I, however, feel that sex shouldn't be able to be changed. That'd probably get people wanting to be able to have name changes, and ANet has already stated that they don't want that. Besides, it's just weird.

Roza · Nov 15, 2005, 02:09 AM // 02:09

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This would actually be a good thing to entice female players, being able to play about with your charachters looks. Although its something for the next expanision i feel.

I agree completely. However, if Anet decides to do that, they should not make these things too expensive. Girls tend to be somewhat casual players. I suspect few of them would really be prepared to do something like farm the UW for weeks and weeks just to be able to buy Fissure armour. I myself want to get some 15K armour for my main pve character, just to look a bit different for a change. But I find farming for that rather tedious. I don't think I'll ever buy any, to be honest.

Findariel · Nov 15, 2005, 02:28 AM // 02:28

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Originally Posted by Roza

I agree completely. However, if Anet decides to do that, they should not make these things too expensive. Girls tend to be somewhat casual players. I suspect few of them would really be prepared to do something like farm the UW for weeks and weeks just to be able to buy Fissure armour. I myself want to get some 15K armour for my main pve character, just to look a bit different for a change. But I find farming for that rather tedious. I don't think I'll ever buy any, to be honest.

Of course it shouldn't be expensive to change your hairstyle, irl you can wear it different every day at no additional costs

But I farmed my own mesmer FoW, and a friend of me also got her own (monk) set. Enough girls who aren't just casual players.
And I have almost all 15k attires as well .. the storage is ridiculously small though

But changing face and gender is somewhat ridiculous. Yes Gw IS a rpg, whether they call it corpg or mmorpg, I still see the "rpg" part in the name. For me, they could add a lot more rpg elements to the game. Like a hometown for a person or guild.

Roza · Nov 15, 2005, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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But I farmed my own mesmer FoW, and a friend of me also got her own (monk) set. Enough girls who aren't just casual players.
And I have almost all 15k attires as well ..

My bad. Girl power.

Maybe it is just me being too lazy. Or the fact that I play pvp most of the time.

Still, if they introduce new armour styles, I really hope that it won't be too hard to get our greedy paws on them.

Kamatsu · Nov 15, 2005, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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Originally Posted by jesh

Yeah, dual weilding would really bring in all the twelve year olds. Add an assassin class too, and you'd never be able to make a group without people that haven't gone through puberty.

LOL Well it looks like your wish has been granted.. the new class in the '06 expansion is a dual-wielding Assassin.. Watch out.. all the kiddies playing dark skinned Drizzt clones are comming to Guild Wars...

I have to agree with Roza in that I hope it's not too hard for players to get any new armor's they implement in the game. I doubt I'll ever get FoW armor.. I'm too casual a player to farm the millions of gold needed.. LOL (heck, I have yet to get 1 character ascended! Talk about casual.. LOL) Which probably means I'm out of the running for any new armor's anyways since they likely will be either hard to get to and/or darned expensive. *shrugs* oh wells.

I have to agree with those against a face/gender change. Thats not "resalistic" and would likely cause too many problems.. and iirc Gaile posted and said that was never going to happen, although I believe she said something was being considered about changing hairstyles and/or color.. which is definately something I'd love implemented. I'd love to be able to change my hairstyles somewhat now and again, it would probably stop me from re-starting a toon if I got unhappy with their looks.. hehehe

Although I would love for them to add more faces and hairstyles in the expansion for every profession.. some of them are down right ugly.. and certain professions IMO tend to be uglier than the others.. hehe Probsbly why I don't play them, or play them for very long.. either that or I restart them because of my continual fascination with other builds/professions/etc.. hehehe

Sir Maddox · Nov 15, 2005, 08:53 AM // 08:53

Wow. This topic couldn't have come along at any better a time for me.

I have two open character spots and I simply CANNOT keep myself from wanting to make another Male Mesmer. Why? The answer may be pathetic, but in truth, all I want is a different hair colour and darker skin. Perhaps I just need a little bit of change is all.

On a related note, that spot is "supposed" to go to an Elementalist, but I can't possibly bring myself to play a Male Ele for more than a few days without deleting him considering how absolutely atrocious all of their faces as well as hairs are. (To me.)

I would like more diversity in faces, as far as ethnicity/age. (How come it seems only Monks get Asian faces?) And I would really like some better looking faces for Male Necros/Rangers/Warriors/Eles..And Mesmers, though the first one is really nice. (I think) Granted, appearance isn't everything, but it makes a big difference when it represents you on a game based on the visual.

Hairstyles seem thematically based on profession, however, none of them differ far enough from the basic idea to really establish some good diversity with your chars. (Above noted Female Monk hairstyles being examples.)

Weren't their weight adjustments in WPE? I could be mistaken.

Also, I was wondering if people would be inclined to the idea of inputting a name BEFORE character model creation. I have a few names I WANT to keep, but knowing the amount of players, I feel very rushed when remaking chars so I can keep the name, and don't get a chance to really play around with their models for extended periods of time. (Out of fear the name will get taken while I fart around.)

Lastly, what the heck is up with Female Ele/Ranger necks? Did somebody eat the left side of the Mushroom?

Lun-Sei · Nov 15, 2005, 08:57 AM // 08:57

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Originally Posted by Roza

I agree completely. However, if Anet decides to do that, they should not make these things too expensive. Girls tend to be somewhat casual players. I suspect few of them would really be prepared to do something like farm the UW for weeks and weeks just to be able to buy Fissure armour.

EXCUSE ME, I am a girl and I have THREE 15K ARMOURS. I said 3.

And about Fissure armour, it's not that girls wouldn't spend time to get it. It's just that a sane player who has a social life outside GW wouldn't spend time to get it..... male or female it doesn't make ANY difference.

Back to the topic! Sorry for the off-topic here.

Roza · Nov 15, 2005, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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EXCUSE ME, I am a girl and I have THREE 15K ARMOURS. I said 3.

Like I said before, my bad. Please forgive me for saying that. Not all female players lack determination, they way I clearly do.

It is just that, as a mostly pvp player now, these armours are out of my reach. Just a thought, maybe Anet could make it possible to unlock 60K armours with faction (you would need to be able to save faction well beyond the 10k cap, of course, as it would need to be expensive faction-wise to unlock armour this way). This would give pvp-only players some more choices, and create a faction-sink for those that have unlocked all they need to unlock (or all there is to unlock). Just a thought...

Doooom · Nov 15, 2005, 07:25 PM // 19:25

What do you guys think about physical appearance changing with levels? I think it's ridiculous that lvl 1 Warriors are as muscular as lvl 20 ones....

And how about a change in appearance upon Ascension?